Statement by witness in Poltava forum - check it out here http://en.poltavaforum.com/looking-people-poltava/21-help-me-find-alina-k-poltava-uadreams.html
If this is true then uadreams.com (External Holding Limited) could face criminal charges for identity theft (is a form of stealing someone's identity in which someone pretends to be someone else by assuming that person's identity)
Кража личности (англ. Identity theft) — преступление, при котором незаконно используются персональные данные человека для получения материальной выгоды. Термин появился в 1964 и является неточным, так как саму личность украсть невозможно.
It would appear that all Ukrainian online dating sites use the Pro-dater business plan which does have a negative effect on the people that they come in contact with during their writing expeditions and this is why there is so much negative comment about uadreams.com and the like. They have only bought it upon themselves and can blame no one else
Professional online daters, without realizing it, are having a negative effect on the people they come in contact with during their expeditions. For example, a professional online dater may be writing seven people at the same time, when another new interesting prospect shows up. In turn, the professional online dater allows communication with one (or more) of the other seven people to suddenly stop, leaving that person without answers and wondering, “where did he/she disappear to?” The other problem professional online daters bring to online dating is their lack of true commitment. They may have three, four or even more relationships a year. The relationships are generally short-lived and the professional online dater has a new date lined up (with someone new he/she met online) within several days of a breakup.
One sensible Ukrainian lady writes
extract from this site - http://www.business..IC_ID=1450 or http://bit.ly/W2LLqF
Reply author: n/a
Replied on: May 02 2011 15:09:23
Message:
Now here from the same site I have quoted THE MOST SHOCKING I COMPLAINT I HAVE EVER COME ACROSS CONCERNING THIS SITE
It comes from Marina from Kiev, Ukraine January 27, 2011
I would like to tell personal story about Anastasia.com. I am girl from Kiev (Ukraine), I am nice, well-educated and I know English. I wanted to find serious relationship with help of site Anastasia. Well, I registered on the site with my real name and stated that I am woman looking for a man. Can you believe, some mistake has happen and I started to receive invitations from girls to be a member and to chat with them or to read their e-mails? I felt that Anastasia doesn't expect girls to make registration by themselves; they prefer to work with local agencies. Well, than I met a girl who was working in the local international dating agency, partner of Anastasia. She told me that she needs to write and send hundreds of e-mails every day, trying to make new members and to have chat with them. She receives percentage from payments.
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Also I found many ads in the local press, where girls are invited to work in chat with foreigners. Also there are special people in the agencies, who write very emotional letters about love and relationship.
Than I studied other international dating sites with Russian/Ukrainian girls. I found out that most popular girls usually have very provocative pictures. I mean that girl in underwear takes your attention more than girl in dress. There are many topless girls. Believe me I grew up and live in Ukraine, I am young and beautiful, but not me not any of my friends can not let provocative pictures appear in the Internet. Don't believe that Ukrainian teacher can place a picture in the Internet dressed in a sexy bra. She has colleagues, classmates, alumni, parents, pupils, relatives, and friends and so on. It will be very bad if somebody from this list will see her in underwear (or topless or nude) in the Internet dating site. It can completely destroy professional and personal reputation (I take a teacher for example, but it is true about doctors, clerks, managers and so on). Who don't care? Well, people from show-business (I didn't find girls on the dating site with such field of work), professional daters and prostitutes.
I am Ukrainian and after my own experience and investigations I don't believe to dating sites. It is monopoly of professional writers, daters, and fake agencies
Well, I decided to try well-known international site. I filled out application form on Match.com. Next day I couldn't access to my page. I wrote a letter to the customer service. The answer was 'We don't accept profiles from your part of world any more, because of scammers'.
Guys, if you have something to suggest me, please don't keep silence, let me know your thoughts.
Marina.
a post on delphi
Dasha´s story to an Australian
that has visited both ualadys and uadreams ladies received this from one of them after his visit which would seem to concur with what fragov (above) says above Original here
“Hello xxxxx
I am so sad and even angry to hear such awful news! I do not have any relations with ualadys/uadreams after winter! I had bad relations with that agency, because the director and the owner of agency are not true people! They write letters by themsel without women! I thought that they removed me from the agency! But they did not do it! And can you imagine? That they have found? my photos and copy them, from such site as odnoklassnik! Do you know about it? It is like ISQ? but here you can find your friends and classmates!
I do not know what to do ! I called to the agency, but secretary said that she did not know anything! So, I hope that you will believe me! I do not have reason to lie to you and to write to you through the agency, as I write to you by myself!
We can do an expariment! My favorite flower is white tulip and my favorite food is cheese! Ask these questions to me through the AGENCY! You will see that the answers are not correct! I hope that you will not write to that unfair agency! They even talk girls do not speak by English, even if you know!"
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Source of post below
and dating scams are not just confined to the Ukraine & other Eastern European countries
A Foreign Affair - investigator tonybochene.com/
http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18394
“I had a contact who was working in UA Dreams. And she said that most of mails are written by translators, girls don't even know that somebody are sending mails from their accounts. On other hand, girls sometimes go to such agencies to get free professional photos. But they have to sign a contract, by which they have to answer on calls, than foreign clients calling them.” Note
Lotus´s comments on this forum have been removed although there is a reference to this person. This would indicate that uadreams.com External Holding (Gibraltar) Limited are a mafia (or similar) and as Poltava is in the Ukraine were able to threaten the webmaster - we are posting the original post and correcting the link
Re: Help me find Alina K (Poltava) from UADreams
12-31-2009 #4
I had a contact who was working in UA Dreams. And she said that most of mails are written by translators, girls don't even know that somebody are sending mails from their accounts. |
Кража личности (англ. Identity theft) — преступление, при котором незаконно используются персональные данные человека для получения материальной выгоды. Термин появился в 1964 и является неточным, так как саму личность украсть невозможно.
Beware of Becoming a Professional Online Dater
extract from websiteProfessional online daters, without realizing it, are having a negative effect on the people they come in contact with during their expeditions. For example, a professional online dater may be writing seven people at the same time, when another new interesting prospect shows up. In turn, the professional online dater allows communication with one (or more) of the other seven people to suddenly stop, leaving that person without answers and wondering, “where did he/she disappear to?” The other problem professional online daters bring to online dating is their lack of true commitment. They may have three, four or even more relationships a year. The relationships are generally short-lived and the professional online dater has a new date lined up (with someone new he/she met online) within several days of a breakup.
One sensible Ukrainian lady writes
extract from this site - http://www.business..IC_ID=1450 or http://bit.ly/W2LLqF
Reply author: n/a
Replied on: May 02 2011 15:09:23
Message:
Now here from the same site I have quoted THE MOST SHOCKING I COMPLAINT I HAVE EVER COME ACROSS CONCERNING THIS SITE
It comes from Marina from Kiev, Ukraine January 27, 2011
I would like to tell personal story about Anastasia.com. I am girl from Kiev (Ukraine), I am nice, well-educated and I know English. I wanted to find serious relationship with help of site Anastasia. Well, I registered on the site with my real name and stated that I am woman looking for a man. Can you believe, some mistake has happen and I started to receive invitations from girls to be a member and to chat with them or to read their e-mails? I felt that Anastasia doesn't expect girls to make registration by themselves; they prefer to work with local agencies. Well, than I met a girl who was working in the local international dating agency, partner of Anastasia. She told me that she needs to write and send hundreds of e-mails every day, trying to make new members and to have chat with them. She receives percentage from payments.
.
Also I found many ads in the local press, where girls are invited to work in chat with foreigners. Also there are special people in the agencies, who write very emotional letters about love and relationship.
Than I studied other international dating sites with Russian/Ukrainian girls. I found out that most popular girls usually have very provocative pictures. I mean that girl in underwear takes your attention more than girl in dress. There are many topless girls. Believe me I grew up and live in Ukraine, I am young and beautiful, but not me not any of my friends can not let provocative pictures appear in the Internet. Don't believe that Ukrainian teacher can place a picture in the Internet dressed in a sexy bra. She has colleagues, classmates, alumni, parents, pupils, relatives, and friends and so on. It will be very bad if somebody from this list will see her in underwear (or topless or nude) in the Internet dating site. It can completely destroy professional and personal reputation (I take a teacher for example, but it is true about doctors, clerks, managers and so on). Who don't care? Well, people from show-business (I didn't find girls on the dating site with such field of work), professional daters and prostitutes.
I am Ukrainian and after my own experience and investigations I don't believe to dating sites. It is monopoly of professional writers, daters, and fake agencies
Well, I decided to try well-known international site. I filled out application form on Match.com. Next day I couldn't access to my page. I wrote a letter to the customer service. The answer was 'We don't accept profiles from your part of world any more, because of scammers'.
Guys, if you have something to suggest me, please don't keep silence, let me know your thoughts.
Marina.
a post on delphi
2013-01-17, 09:22:11
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Anybody scammed by a Ukrainian dating scammer can email the Ukrainian Tax service,. gromada@sts.gov.ua
They are always pleased to hear from you & tax the scumbags of there ill gotten gains. They have a fraud department that will take action & hopefully put these low life scammers out of business. Its well worth an email to alert them of a scammer & if possible the agency they work for. Its probably best to just visit Ukraine with out using corrupt dating agencies if you really want to meet a Ukrainian lady. Just be prepared to be patient & do NOT part with your hard earned cash if they ask for it. Move on & find someone else. There are lots of decent women there as well as the scumbag scammers.
Ніхто обдурив українські знайомства шахрай може відправити Українська податкова служба.
gromada@sts.gov.ua Вони завжди раді почути від вас і податку відморозки там з жорстокого отримали прибуток. Вони мають шахрайство відділ, який буде вживати заходів і, ми сподіваємося, покласти Ці низькі шахраї життя з бізнесу. Його варто електронної пошти, щоб попередити їх про шахрай і, якщо можливо, вони працюють на агентство. Його, ймовірно, краще просто відвідати Україну з з використанням шлюбні агентства корумпованих якщо ви дійсно хочете познайомитися з українськими леді. Просто будьте готові бути терплячими і не розлучитися з працею зароблені гроші, якщо вони просять за це. Переходьте і знайти когось іншого. Є багато гідних жінок там так само як покидьок шахраїв. |
Dasha´s story to an Australian
that has visited both ualadys and uadreams ladies received this from one of them after his visit which would seem to concur with what fragov (above) says above Original here
“Hello xxxxx
I am so sad and even angry to hear such awful news! I do not have any relations with ualadys/uadreams after winter! I had bad relations with that agency, because the director and the owner of agency are not true people! They write letters by themsel without women! I thought that they removed me from the agency! But they did not do it! And can you imagine? That they have found? my photos and copy them, from such site as odnoklassnik! Do you know about it? It is like ISQ? but here you can find your friends and classmates!
I do not know what to do ! I called to the agency, but secretary said that she did not know anything! So, I hope that you will believe me! I do not have reason to lie to you and to write to you through the agency, as I write to you by myself!
We can do an expariment! My favorite flower is white tulip and my favorite food is cheese! Ask these questions to me through the AGENCY! You will see that the answers are not correct! I hope that you will not write to that unfair agency! They even talk girls do not speak by English, even if you know!"
.
Source of post below
2013-03-14, 08:28:37
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I know a translator for this company, it is 100 per
cent scam, do you really think young Ukraine models are single and
looking for old men ? They get paid by the company for every photo
someone buys of them and for every email they receive as well as a hourly
rate for video chat. Most of the girls are in relationships, search for
them on www.vk.com and look for yourself. They get paid money for the
gifts you send, so they never even got the nice roses you sent, just $5
instead. If you are looking for genuine girls there then look for single
mothers or women in there late 30's and older. The young girls don't
want old men. Just your money.
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and dating scams are not just confined to the Ukraine & other Eastern European countries
BBC One - Panorama, Tainted Love: Secrets of the Dating Game
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b037wr14
Panorama exposes the tricks of the UK's online dating industry.
GlobalMatchConnection.com and Cupid plc have been named.
Whistleblowers reveal how they create fake profiles and adopt multiple personas to reel in those looking for love - all to boost profits.
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Panorama exposes the tricks of the UK's online dating industry, worth millions of pounds a year. Reporter Fiona Walker investigates how some unscrupulous dating websites are preying on those looking for love and searching for their perfect partner. She reveals a world where millions of photos and private details are taken from social media sites without people's consent and reused to set up fake profiles of imaginary potential partners to tempt the lovelorn. Celebrities, politicians and even children are among those whose personal information has been targeted. Whistleblowers reveal how they create fake profiles and adopt multiple personas to reel in those looking for love - all to boost profits.
...at Cupid plc?
According to this article in the Kyiv Post, Cupid recruits for a job titled "Motivation Manager" in the Ukraine. An undercover journalist applied for one of these positions which allegedly "involved posing as a female user of the dating site and encouraging male users online to buy memberships." But that can't be right because Cupid told the BBC that they don't employ anyone to do this (it would be illegal after all).
Apparently Cupid did not respond to an invitation from the Kyiv Post to comment on this investigation.
Whistleblowers reveal how they create fake profiles and adopt multiple personas to reel in those looking for love - all to boost profits.
.
Panorama exposes the tricks of the UK's online dating industry, worth millions of pounds a year. Reporter Fiona Walker investigates how some unscrupulous dating websites are preying on those looking for love and searching for their perfect partner. She reveals a world where millions of photos and private details are taken from social media sites without people's consent and reused to set up fake profiles of imaginary potential partners to tempt the lovelorn. Celebrities, politicians and even children are among those whose personal information has been targeted. Whistleblowers reveal how they create fake profiles and adopt multiple personas to reel in those looking for love - all to boost profits.
Monday, 18 March 2013
What motivates management...
According to this article in the Kyiv Post, Cupid recruits for a job titled "Motivation Manager" in the Ukraine. An undercover journalist applied for one of these positions which allegedly "involved posing as a female user of the dating site and encouraging male users online to buy memberships." But that can't be right because Cupid told the BBC that they don't employ anyone to do this (it would be illegal after all).
Apparently Cupid did not respond to an invitation from the Kyiv Post to comment on this investigation.
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