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YES, IT IS TRUE, UADREAMS IS A SCAM. In 2010 I went to visit several ladies, one who I spoke with in video chat over 20 times and was waiting for me to visit. What a disaster. Does this sound suspicious to you?
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The two ladies that I met were very nice and interested, but came up with various excuses why they could not give their private email (they don't have one or, the agency does not allow until a first meeting which we had).
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I must say this, it is an amazingly well performed scam. Clearly, the ladies are getting paid for their time and that's why they do it and then try to duck any real meetings or make it one brief one with excuses to end it or get more money.
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What an utter joke. BUYER BEWARE. The ladies are real, beautiful, and nice, but they are scamming you for every cent of your money and when the well dries up, or you come to visit, so will the fantasy end.
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Я буду защищатьдамуиз Горловки, какесли бы она быламоейсемьеимоихчувств по отношению кздесьне изменитсяв результатевоздействияэтогодругого человекаввышеупомянутом сайтеwww.uadreams.com
You're recognising that certain arrangements you've struggled unsuccessfully to sustain weren't actually worth saving. You're now wondering why you allowed yourself to invest so much time in them. The answer is that you trusted those who had an interest in keeping them afloat. Remember this when dealing with these individuals in the future. Reference to www.uadreams.com?
Ты Признавая, что определенные механизмы вы безуспешно боролась для поддержания на самом деле не стоит сохранить. Ты теперь интересно, почему вы позволили себе вкладывать так много времени в них. Ответом является то, что ты надеешься, кто был заинтересован в поддержание их на плаву. Запомните это при работе с этими лицами в будущем. Ссылка на www.uadreams.com?
“I had a contact who was working in UA Dreams. And she said that most of mails are written by translators, girls don't even know that somebody are sending mails from their accounts.
On other hand, girls sometimes go to such agencies to get free professional photos. But they have to sign a contract, by which they have to answer on calls, than foreign clients calling them.” Note
Lotus´s comments on this forum have been removed although there is a reference to this person. This would indicate that uadreams.com External Holding (Gibraltar) Limited are a mafia (or similar) and as Poltava is in the Ukraine were able to threaten the webmaster - we are posting the original post and correcting the link
I had a contact who was working in UA Dreams. And she said that most of mails are written by translators, girls don't even know that somebody are sending mails from their accounts. On other hand, girls sometimes go to such agencies to get free professional photos. But they have to sign a contract, by which they have to answer on calls, than foreign clients calling them. (See Dasha´s story below)
If this is true then uadreams.com (External Holding Limited) could face criminal charges for identity theft (is a form of stealing someone's identity in which someone pretends to be someone else by assuming that person's identity)
Кража личности (англ.Identity theft) —
преступление, при котором незаконно используются персональные данные
человека для получения материальной выгоды. Термин появился в 1964 и
является неточным, так как саму личность украсть невозможно.
It would appear that all Ukrainian online dating sites use the Pro-dater business plan which does have a negative effect on the people that they come in contact with during their writing expeditions and this is why there is so much negative comment about uadreams.com and the like. They have only bought it upon themselves and can blame no one else
extract from website
Professional online daters, without realizing it, are having a negative
effect on the people they come in contact with during their expeditions.
For example, a professional online dater may be writing seven people at
the same time, when another new interesting prospect shows up. In turn,
the professional online dater allows communication with one (or more)
of the other seven people to suddenly stop, leaving that person without
answers and wondering, “where did he/she disappear to?” The other
problem professional online daters bring to online dating is their lack
of true commitment. They may have three, four or even more relationships
a year. The relationships are generally short-lived and the
professional online dater has a new date lined up (with someone new
he/she met online) within several days of a breakup. One sensible Ukrainian lady writes extract from this site - http://www.business..IC_ID=1450 or http://bit.ly/W2LLqF Reply author: n/a
Replied on: May 02 2011 15:09:23
Message:
Now here from the same site I have quoted THE MOST SHOCKING I COMPLAINT I HAVE EVER COME ACROSS CONCERNING THIS SITE
It comes from Marina from Kiev, Ukraine January 27, 2011
I would like to tell personal story about Anastasia.com. I am girl
from Kiev (Ukraine), I am nice, well-educated and I know English. I
wanted to find serious relationship with help of site Anastasia. Well, I
registered on the site with my real name and stated that I am woman
looking for a man. Can you believe, some mistake has happen and I
started to receive invitations from girls to be a member and to chat
with them or to read their e-mails? I felt that Anastasia doesn't expect
girls to make registration by themselves; they prefer to work with
local agencies. Well, than I met a girl who was working in the local
international dating agency, partner of Anastasia. She told me that she
needs to write and send hundreds of e-mails every day, trying to make
new members and to have chat with them. She receives percentage from
payments.
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Also I found many ads in the local press, where girls are invited to
work in chat with foreigners. Also there are special people in the
agencies, who write very emotional letters about love and relationship.
Than I studied other international dating sites with
Russian/Ukrainian girls. I found out that most popular girls usually
have very provocative pictures. I mean that girl in underwear takes your
attention more than girl in dress. There are many topless girls.
Believe me I grew up and live in Ukraine, I am young and beautiful, but
not me not any of my friends can not let provocative pictures appear in
the Internet. Don't believe that Ukrainian teacher can place a picture
in the Internet dressed in a sexy bra. She has colleagues, classmates,
alumni, parents, pupils, relatives, and friends and so on. It will be
very bad if somebody from this list will see her in underwear (or
topless or nude) in the Internet dating site. It can completely destroy
professional and personal reputation (I take a teacher for example, but
it is true about doctors, clerks, managers and so on). Who don't care?
Well, people from show-business (I didn't find girls on the dating site
with such field of work), professional daters and prostitutes.
I am Ukrainian and after my own experience and investigations I
don't believe to dating sites. It is monopoly of professional writers,
daters, and fake agencies
Well, I decided to try well-known international site. I filled out
application form on Match.com. Next day I couldn't access to my page. I
wrote a letter to the customer service. The answer was 'We don't accept
profiles from your part of world any more, because of scammers'.
Guys, if you have something to suggest me, please don't keep silence, let me know your thoughts.
Marina. a post on delphi
2013-01-17, 09:22:11
anonymous
Anybody scammed by a Ukrainian dating scammer can email the Ukrainian Tax service,. gromada@sts.gov.ua
They are always pleased to hear from you & tax the scumbags of
there ill gotten gains. They have a fraud department that will take
action & hopefully put these low life scammers out of business. Its
well worth an email to alert them of a scammer & if possible the
agency they work for. Its probably best to just visit Ukraine with out
using corrupt dating agencies if you really want to meet a Ukrainian
lady. Just be prepared to be patient & do NOT part with your hard
earned cash if they ask for it. Move on & find someone else. There
are lots of decent women there as well as the scumbag scammers.
Ніхтообдуривукраїнськізнайомствашахрай можевідправитиУкраїнська податковаслужба. gromada@sts.gov.ua Вонизавжди радіпочутивідвасіподаткувідморозкитамз жорстокогоотрималиприбуток. Вонимаютьшахрайствовідділ, якийбудевживати заходіві, ми сподіваємося, покластиЦінизькішахраїжиттяз бізнесу. Йоговартоелектронної пошти, щобпопередитиїхпрошахрайі, якщоможливо, вони працюютьнаагентство. Його, ймовірно, кращепростовідвідати Україну зз використаннямшлюбніагентствакорумпованихякщови дійсно хочете познайомитисяз українськимиледі. Простобудьте готовібути терплячимиіне розлучитися зпрацею зароблені гроші, якщовонипросятьзаце.Переходьтеізнайтикогось іншого. Є багатогіднихжіноктамтаксамояк покидьокшахраїв.
Dasha´s story to an Australian
that has visited both ualadys and uadreams ladies received this from one of them after his visit which would seem to concur with what fragov (above) says above Original here
“Hello xxxxx
I am so sad and even angry to hear such awful news! I do not have any relations with ualadys/uadreams after winter! I had bad relations with that agency, because the director and the owner of agency are not true people! They write letters by themsel without women! I
thought that they removed me from the agency! But they did not do it! And can you imagine? That they have found? my photos and copy them, from such site as odnoklassnik! Do you know about it? It is like ISQ? but here you can find your friends and classmates!
I do not know what to do !
I called to the agency, but secretary said that she did not know anything!
So, I hope that you will believe me!
I do not have reason to lie to you and to write to you through the agency, as I write to you by myself!
We can do an expariment! My favorite flower is white tulip and my favorite food is cheese! Ask these questions to me through the AGENCY! You will see that the answers are not correct!
I hope that you will not write to that unfair agency! They even talk girls do not speak by English, even if you know!"
. Source of post below
2013-03-14, 08:28:37
anonymous
I know a translator for this company, it is 100 per
cent scam, do you really think young Ukraine models are single and
looking for old men ? They get paid by the company for every photo
someone buys of them and for every email they receive as well as a hourly
rate for video chat. Most of the girls are in relationships, search for
them on www.vk.com and look for yourself. They get paid money for the
gifts you send, so they never even got the nice roses you sent, just $5
instead. If you are looking for genuine girls there then look for single
mothers or women in there late 30's and older. The young girls don't
want old men. Just your money.
and dating scams are not just confined to the Ukraine & other Eastern European countries
Panorama exposes the tricks of the UK's online dating industry.
GlobalMatchConnection.com and Cupid plc have been named. Whistleblowers reveal how they create fake profiles and adopt multiple
personas to reel in those looking for love - all to boost profits. .
Panorama exposes the tricks of the UK's online dating industry, worth
millions of pounds a year. Reporter Fiona Walker investigates how some
unscrupulous dating websites are preying on those looking for love and
searching for their perfect partner. She reveals a world where millions
of photos and private details are taken from social media sites without
people's consent and reused to set up fake profiles of imaginary
potential partners to tempt the lovelorn. Celebrities, politicians and
even children are among those whose personal information has been
targeted. Whistleblowers reveal how they create fake profiles and adopt
multiple personas to reel in those looking for love - all to boost
profits.
According to this article
in the Kyiv Post, Cupid recruits for a job titled "Motivation Manager"
in the Ukraine. An undercover journalist applied for one of these
positions which allegedly "involved posing as a female user of the
dating site and encouraging male users online to buy memberships." But
that can't be right because Cupid told the BBC that they don't employ anyone to do this (it would be illegal after all).
Apparently Cupid did not respond to an invitation from the Kyiv Post to comment on this investigation.
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“I had a contact who was working in UA Dreams. And she said that most of mails are written by translators, girls don't even know that somebody are sending mails from their accounts.
On other hand, girls sometimes go to such agencies to get free professional photos. But they have to sign a contract, by which they have to answer on calls, than foreign clients calling them.”
Uadreams.com have a facility to hide the man´s profile, which I used as I got fed up with all these ladies (or as it has probably turned out to be translators) bombarding me with come on letters. In any case I believe that both the lady and the man can only write to one person at a time. Alright I have heard that this agency forces the ladies (if they do write the letters) to reply to every person that writes to them whether they want to or not.
What I would suggest that you could invest in 5 e-mail credits and on the fourth one ask the lady if she wishes to continue writing then that she hide´s her profile from any new men until either one of you agree that you are not for one another. If it is a translator purporting to be the lady she will obviously refuse. If she is a genuine lady she will accept.
If there is a refusal to this reasonable request terminate your business with the agency for it is a scam as a group of three of us have already proved and fragov has told us what goes on here (see above)
RoaldT on Sat Feb 14, 20097:07 pm Alina (AlinaK#9931) could have been no more than one of the company´s translators posing as that lady which is why he could never find her. (This man reported the agency to the FBI) jofo on Tue Feb 24, 200912:24 said that he was writing to the same lady and reckoned that the operation was a scam. I have read reports that some men have told the ladies that they are stopping writing as it is a scam. Do you think that IF THE LADIES ARE REAL the translator is going to pass that information onto them?
Well a friendly warning from someone that has learned the hard way.
Если вы считаете, должен ответить, что дамы uadreams.com или любой другой сайт Агентства по вопросу, что эта процедура может спасти ваши сердца и ваши деньги
В свете этой информации
По fragov на чт 31 декабря 2009 1:59 вечера
"У меня был контакт, который работал в Dreams UA. И она сказала, что большинство писем написаны переводчика, девушки даже не знаю, что кто-то отправляете почту со своего счета.
С другой стороны, девушки иногда посещают такие учреждения для получения бесплатной профессиональной фотографии. Но они должны подписать договор, по которому они должны ответить на вызовы, чем иностранные клиенты называя их ".
Uadreams.com есть объект скрыть профиль человека, который я использовал как мне надоели все эти дамы (или как оно, возможно, оказалось переводчика) бомбардирует меня прийти на письма. В любом случае, я считаю, что обе дамы и человек может писать только одному человеку за раз. Хорошо я слышал, что это агентство силы дамы (если они вообще писать письма), чтобы ответить на каждое лицо, которое записывает их, хотят ли они этого или нет.
Что я предлагаю, чтобы вы могли бы инвестировать в 5 электронной почты кредитов и на четвертый спросить даму, если она желает, чтобы продолжить то, что она Профиль скрыть ее от любых новых мужчин, пока ни одна из вас согласятся, что вы не друг для друга. Если это переводчик якобы леди она будет, очевидно, отказаться. Если бы она была подлинной леди она будет получать.
Если есть отказ от этой просьбой прекратить вас дела с Агентством за это афера как группа из трех из нас уже доказали и fragov сообщил нам, что здесь происходит (см. выше)
RoaldT по сб 14 февраля 2009 7:07 вечера Алина (AlinaK # 9931) можно было бы не более чем один из переводчиков компании выдавая себя за даму, что именно поэтому он не мог ее найти. (Этот человек сообщил агентству ФБР) jofo Вт на 24 февраля 2009 12:24 говорит, что он писал в то же леди и рассчитывал, что операция была афера. Я читал сообщения, что некоторые мужчины сообщили, что они дам, которые останавливают письменном виде, это мошенничество. Как вы думаете, что если дам REAL переводчик будет передавать эту информацию на них?
Помните, что дамы, если вы присоединитесь агентство, которое является мошеннической можно неоправданного помечены как мошенник - это называемый сопутствующий ущерб, как фильм http://bit.ly/74fNXY
"I had a contact who was working in UA Dreams. And she said that most of mails are written by translators, girls don't even know that somebody are sending mails from their accounts.
On other hand, girls sometimes go to such agencies to get free professional photos. But they have to sign a contract, by which they have to answer on calls, than foreign clients calling them."
I received this information today and would confirm my thoughts that Lidiya P #8135 may not have written the 80 letters to me. That her identity was used in exchange of the professional photos. When it came to meeting she (or should I say they) had to finish the relationship. I was invited and refused in March & August 2008. My questions about a visit were evaded in February/March 2009 and refused on 12 October 2009
"У меня был контакт, который работал в Dreams UA. И она сказала, что большинство писем написаны переводчика, девушки даже не знаю, что кто-то отправляете почту со своего счета.
С другой стороны, девушки иногда посещают такие учреждения для получения бесплатной профессиональной фотографии. Но они должны подписать договор, по которому они должны ответить на вызовы, чем иностранные клиенты называя их ".
Я получил эту информацию сегодня и подтвердил мои мысли, что Лидия P # 8135, возможно, не написали 80 писем ко мне. Эта личность была использована в обмен на профессиональные фотографии. Когда дело дошло до встречи она (или я должен сказать они) должны были закончить отношения. Я был приглашен и отказался марта & августе 2008 года. Мои вопросы по поводу визита уклонился в феврале-марте 2009 года и отказался от 12 октября 2009
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In reply to that letter I have posted here http://bit.ly/4EpF0k without
drawing the above mentioned lady into it, as she like myself I am sure
has suffered enough due to the mishandling of our relationship by these
people
On 12th October 2009 the lady says she is madly in love with an American
and to forget her. A week latter the agency is asking for someone from
Venezuala to send her a present, on tuesday she asks me to forget her
and now she sends me a video!
I am sure that she knows nothing of what is going on behind the scenes
and I feel very sorry for her.
The full details revealed here - http://bit.ly/8OG1NH If you believe that the agency deceived Lidiya and John please leave your
opinion in the comment box. Thank you.
They have made the mess they have to sort it out!
В ответ на это письмо, я поместил здесь без http://bit.ly/4EpF0k
рисунок вышеупомянутой дамой в нее, как она, как я уверен
достаточно пострадала из-за неправильных действий наших
взаимоотношений этих люди
12 октября 2009 года леди говорит, что она влюблена в
американских и забыть о ней. Последняя неделя агентство просить
кого-то из Venezuala отправить ее настоящем, во вторник она просит
меня, чтобы забыть о ней и теперь она посылает мне видео!
Я уверен, что она ничего не знает о том, что происходит за кулисами
и мне очень жаль ее.
Они внесли беспорядок они должны разобраться! __________
Sunday, December 27, 2009
Лидия P # 8135 из Горловки Желаю вам счастливого Нового 2010 года в надежде, что однажды судьба сводит нас вместе http://bit.ly/1ECbyQ
Дороги не волнуйтесь, но я знаю, что сайт манипулировали своем последнем письме на мое имя от 12 октября, когда они поняли, что у меня проблемы с моей кредитной карты и, что нет больше денег, они идут от меня, так что сделал, что вы была безумно влюблена в Америке. В течение 7 дней они направили послание моим другом в Венесуэле, заявляя, что он отправить вам подарок, который подтвердил мои мысли, что www.uadreams.com изменил последний абзац Suite свои собственные финансовые жадности. Они не заинтересованы в людях формированию прочных связей и поиске своего единственного - они заинтересованы только в подкладку карманов с долларами!
A visitor from Augsburg, Germany clicked on http://bit.ly/5MW2mT to read Russian post today that caused me curiosty. Was Lidiya still working in Germany, but still www.uadreams.com displaying her profile?
In other words it was identity theft so I tried an experiment on www.facade.com which if true left me amazed and would account for why I was never allowed to meet Lidiya P in Donetsk by this Ukrainian Marraige agency!
Был гостем из Аугсбурга Германии сегодня http://bit.ly/5MW2mT что прочитал русский пост сегодня которые вызывали у меня curiosty. Лидия была еще работают в Германии, но по-прежнему www.uadreams.com показаны ее профиль? Иными словами, она была кражи поэтому я попытался эксперимент по www.facade.com которая, если истинно оставил меня удивлял и будет объяснить, почему мне не было разрешено встретиться Лидия Р в Донецке этого украинского брачное агентство!